# Mu: designing a safe computing stack from the ground up

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**Created:** [25 February 2023 16:49 UTC](https://forum.malleable.systems/t/mu-designing-a-safe-computing-stack-from-the-ground-up/51 "2023-02-25T16:49:14Z")\
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**Post date:** [1 May 2023 17:38 UTC](https://forum.malleable.systems/t/mu-designing-a-safe-computing-stack-from-the-ground-up/51/7 "2023-05-01T17:38:56Z")

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That’s a totally valid criticism. I never managed to work in the context of a community, and I still struggle with that in my current projects. Do you have any suggestions? I’m curious what it took to foster a community around Grafoscopio, and if there are lessons I can learn from your experience.

> I wanted research that went beyond papers and academia and closer to the grassroots communities outside

This 100% matches my priorities. Because of my difficulty bootstrapping communities, my focus is on building things are useful even just to a single person working alone. But perhaps that focus perpetuates the problem.

> we need to make explicit the metasystem properties of digital tools/infrastructures, i.e. the ability to describe themself via a continuum between the running app/tool and its source code and create explicit educative practices in a grassroots community where such apps/tools are introduced/used/modified.

I don’t follow this at all. Could you rephrase or elaborate?

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